Ethnology professor: How globalization and pop-culture takes a toll on national identity

Can centuries-old Lithuanian ethnic culture withstand sweeping globalization? Is it possible to retain national identity when Lithuanian countryside, the stronghold of traditions, is wilting away? And what should the authorities do in handing down the ancestral heritage to youth so that it keeps living? Libertas Klimka, a prominent Lithuanian ethnologist and professor at the Lithuanian University of Educology, talks to the Lithuania Tribune.
Libertas Klimka
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